How to check if your Scooter CDI is restricted
I am getting a lot of people asking me, if their scooter has a restricted CDI, how to check if it is restricted and how to derestrict it. First of, I want to explain why CDI's are restricted in the first place.
Why are some scooters having a restricted CDI?
To get one thing straight: Only 50cc scooters have a restricted CDI. I have never heard of a bigger engine model with a restricted CDI which is being shipped like that (if you know please leave a comment). Tho, keep in mind that there might be an additional third party restriction installed to allow for riding your scooter model with a certain license.
With this out of the way, let's talk about the restricted CDI's found in some 50cc scooters. The obvious reason for a restricted CDI is to ensure that they don't go faster than the legal speed limit. You have probably read my article on derestricting your scooter and you might ask why some do a CDI restriction and some do another one. Whilst in my early years of scooter tuning all restrictions were mechanical, the restricted CDI only became popular in the last ten years or so. I was doing a bit of research and believe Japans government enforced the use of restricted CDI's at some point. Why I can't tell you exactly what happened, this explanation makes sense since Italian made scooters still don't ship with restricted CDI's up to today, even tho they share the same (Yamaha)Minarelli engine. This leads us to the next question
Which scooters have a restricted CDI?
Whilst this list is probably not 100% accurate it should point you in the right direction:
- Newer (after 2005) model Japanese 50cc scooters
- This includes Yamaha and Honda models (both 2-st and 4-st), especially those for the Japanese market. For example the popular Yamaha Aerox is built for the European market and still ships with an unrestricted CDI (please comment if you know more)
- Honda Ruckus/Zoomer appear to be CDI restricted. Tho, since performance of the stock 4-st Honda GET engine is very limited some people state different results. Don't expect too much from installing an unrestricted CDI.
- Chinese 50cc scooters
- Pretty much all of the Chinese 50cc scooters have a restricted CDI installed. I can't tell for sure why, but I believe the Chinese government might have enforced a similar rule, or the Chinese manufacturers just wanted to ensure that their models can be sold to the Japanese market without modifications.
- Piaggio 50cc injection models
- Whilst this is not necessarily a CDI restriction, the injection models by Piaggio have some sort of injection restriction in place that acts in a similar way as the CDI restriction. Apparently these can be unrestricted via a software update. Get in touch with your dealer about that.
How to check if your scooter has a restricted CDI?
If you believe your scooter is CDI restricted there are some easy tests:
- Right downhill. If your scooter is not going faster (or stops revving higher at some point) when going downhill compared to going straight, then you can be certain your scooter has a CDI restriction in place.
- Another way to check needs an RPM meter. Place your scooter on the main stand and make sure it's secure. Ideally have someone to help you holding it in place. Rev the engine up slowly and check if at some point the engine stops revving for no reason. This is probably somewhere around 7-800rpm. If it revs higher than 8000rpm you're don't have a restricted CDI in place.
- Install a 70cc cylinder kit. If you scooter still doesn't go faster than stock, the CDI is restricted :)
How to derestrict your CDI?
Whilst most of you are probably hoping that the CDI can simply be derestricted MacGyver style by cutting a wire, I have to disappoint. Whilst it is apparently possible to derestrict a CDI for some models (old Piaggio Purejet), most models require you to purchase a derestricted CDI. Companies like Malossi offer derestricted CDI's at high prices, but if you don't care about marketing and high-end tuning you are good to go with the cheaper models. I have now put together a full derestriction kit for the most popular scooters out there. You can find it in our new shop. We are shipping worldwide!
Check out the New TuningMatters.com 50cc Scooter Derestriction Kit!
And since you read all to the end, here is a 10% Discount Voucher for a few days: 10offYeah
You have anything to say? Feel free to comment on this article, or post to the forum if you have any questions!
112 Comments
I just bought a honda nsc50r similar to the vision model. It is a 50cc 4t and it is CDI Restrited !!! A nightmare!!!! The CDI is a black box with 33 pins and i have expended sooooo much time trying to get a derestricted one online but there is nothing out there!!! I am quite desperate about it it is so unsafe 28mph!!!! I am hoping that you know some website where they sell this.
Thanks a lot!!
Injection engines are different to traditional carb engines. They don't really have a CDI that's why you have all these pins :)
Are you sure for the nsc 110 cdi instead the nsc 50 cdi ? This solution is really works ? Do you have tested it ?
Thanks very much for your answer !
Sorry for my very bad English ?
the power stops everytime until it goes below 98 or bounces around if the throttle is kept open - because there's no variation in when this happens it seems like its been restricted in some way
Thank you
Dave
unrestricted it.
We didn’t find any restrictors from the variator etc.
So CDI is restricted.
Our django CDI box is 6pin + extra wiring for variator. Cdi have number QP5-45 D50-LK39 5A1
Can you help us in this case, where to find unrestricted cdi or is it same with some other model?
Yes Peugeot has a history of restricted CDI, but also doing Carburator and Intake Restirctions. Have a look there too. Racing-Planet.com has unrestricted CDIs for almost all models available.
Thanks so much!
Mark Timony
[email protected]
843 754 6656
Barry Martin
[email protected]
813-562-5966
and when the throttle cut or feeders........please answer would go crazy....sorry for my English
Hi I have the 50cc MIO have improved cylinder 63 CC - Bill 9 grams. and goes 65 km, bought from the planet CDI struggle and worse .... you suggest me something;
and when the throttle cut or feeders........please answer would go crazy....sorry for my English.... :(
I have a kymco agility 50 cc..
I heard it's a matter of cutting the cdi at a particular location and that will do it.
Whats your opinion?
Louis
Can anyone give me a link where i could but derestriced cdi unit for my honda nsc50r, please?
thanks
Thanks
Clutch won't improve your speed I'm afraid. Only initial acceleration from standstill might be improved. If you still need the CDI, can you let me know which country you're from? I should be able to hook you up!
Cheers,
Daniel
Again nice write up.
Yes, the Kymcos are all blocked even the larger than 50cc ones. I can get you a CDI probably, tho need to know the connector plug. Can you send me picture of the plug of the current CDI? What country are you from?
Cheers,
Daniel
Im from Poland but currently luve in the uk. Could you help me find right cdi? Thanks
Thank you.
Does a Yamaha Aeorox 2009 model. It goes 75 km/t just with I removed plumb in exhaust. What other things can i remove or change to get more power and speed?
-Variator
-CDI is restricted and if it is how to derestrict it…
-And other tips is welcome:)) Thanks
Appreciation from all the people I have read you have helped already.
I have a conundrum ped. It is a SYM Allo 50 and I can not find any info on it at all not even decent parts sites. I have just replaced the front indicators with aftermarket because I could not get original!
So I really need to get it over 27ish MPH it is dangerous with nothing to give me on speed. Please help me with what to do "how to do it" I am pretty good with a spanner so what can I do? CDI, Variator, Carb?
I can not find anything specific to my model.
Chhers C
you can earn extra bucks every month because you've
got hi quality content. If you want to know how to make extra bucks, search for: best adsense alternative Wrastain's tools
I recently purchased an electric motorcycle which, as far as I know, was setup and or made in Canada and is restricted to about 18mph, is there a way to make this electric motorcycle go a bit faster? I have an electric bike too and this goes about 26mph.
I have a Honda ruckus 50cc & i’m Living in Iran .i have bought a CDI box with 6pin for my scooter & I want to connect it but I don’t have the wiring & diagram of wiring .may you help me pls. Thanks
I have a Peugeot Speedfight 4 (AC) 4T-18 and want to change my CDI box to one no limit cdi box but i cant find it. I have take away my seat and look under it but i cant find it.
Do you now where to find it?
i have a peugeot Speedfight 4 4T .
Can i by a new cdi box of you ?
With no restrictions
I am in a possesion of CPI popcorn, what kind of CDI can You offer me to run itmore than 50 km/h
regards
Mario
I have a Peugeot django 50cc two stroke could you please advise me about the CDI box to derestrict it.
Regards Archer.
I have a Peugeot django 50cc two stroke could you please advise me about the CDI box to derestrict it.
Regards Archer.
Looks like your the only guy I have found that makes sense in the world of unrestricting 50cc.
Please HELP, I purchased a new 2018 vespa primavera 4 stroke and the dealer did not think it was a problem to manually derestrict and now I have the scooter they don't want to know about it or me!!
Anyway is there any intel you have that I can use to get my local bike mechanic to do it myself? I can see heaps of cdi units on the web but would not know where to start?
kind regards
scott
I have new SYM, Symphony ST (2019) 50cc, 4stoke, EURO4.
I want to upgrade it to unblocked CDI. Do you have any suggetions which one to buy and where?
Thanks!
Any ideas anyone?
I am currently tinkering around with my soon to be 16 year old sons moped, its a Peugeot zenith ls sport, 1998 and wondered if you can tell me if it has a cdi restriction ?
I have taken care of the exhaust, air filter etc, got new reeds, high output coil and some other bits but would be usefull to know.
I live on an island and there are no hills !
regards
ken
By the way, this has broadened my knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
will a CDI restrictor work on a 2015 scomadi tl50,, is it definitely an AC unit...
SC....
Thanks again in advance.
Kindest regards
Geoff
[email protected]
i have a 2000 Suzuki UX50 Zillion and its restricted (it wont go past 47km/h)
the aiurbox is not a restriction because there is a sport filter installed
any tips on where could be a restriction on that bike?
There's potentially also restriction in the exhaust - if you're not willing to chop and weld it yourself then you should look for a used "tuning" exhaust as a shop will charge more than a second hand part is worth to complete the work.